Help with the definition of the car model?

Queries about model and year identification, engine and vehicle numbers, etc.
Sobol040
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Re: Help with the definition of the car model?

Post by Sobol040 » Fri May 04, 2018 11:44 pm

To all participants thank you very much! I agree that this issue needs to be carefully addressed. Here for example in the book" 1941 Packard Accessory Brochure " additional accessories which can be installed on the car are shown. Some of these options are very clearly visible in the photo. Is it possible that the lack of RUNNING BOARD is an option or a tuning?
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JD in KC
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Re: Help with the definition of the car model?

Post by JD in KC » Sat May 05, 2018 4:10 am

Don Shields wrote:... Deleting these running boards would be no simple task as both the front and rear fenders would need to be replaced with 19th series or 1941 model year fenders as the parts list shows different numbers for the 1940 and 1941 fenders.
I also read the entire '40 data book yesterday looking for a clue as to a possible running board delete option and came up with nothing. Replacing an 18th series front fender with a 19th series front fender and still retaining the separate (not incorporated into the fender) headlights would be a nightmare so I don't think that's the case here. Maybe it was a running undocumented change but I would suspect a custom removal of the running boards as the most likely answer. Then again, I've been wrong before :shock: .

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Re: Help with the definition of the car model?

Post by Sobol040 » Sun May 06, 2018 10:51 am

I agree with You!!! Wings 40 and 41 are very different!!! The strangest thing is that I couldn't find a photo of "1940 club sedan" 40s "original." Maybe someone saw these photos???

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Re: Help with the definition of the car model?

Post by Sobol040 » Sun May 06, 2018 10:59 am

In this "original ""historical" photo shows the car 1939 Packard Super Eight Convertible Victoria by Darrin (1703), this photo confirms that similar wings were used before 1940!!!
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Re: Help with the definition of the car model?

Post by Ozstatman » Sun May 06, 2018 12:57 pm

From my point of view I consider "Darrins" to be custom built and not comparable to assembly line production cars. Plus I believe many Darrins were updated with later model features especially front clips.
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Re: Help with the definition of the car model?

Post by JD in KC » Sun May 06, 2018 6:53 pm

Sobol040 wrote:...The strangest thing is that I couldn't find a photo of "1940 club sedan" 40s "original." Maybe someone saw these photos???
Here's a Packard factory photo of a 1940 Club Sedan:
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Re: Help with the definition of the car model?

Post by Sobol040 » Sun May 06, 2018 8:39 pm

JD in KS, thanks for the photo. Maybe You have more such photos, please post in this thread. This will allow more detail to understand the features of said car.

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Re: Help with the definition of the car model?

Post by Ozstatman » Sun May 06, 2018 9:05 pm

Link to a 1396 in the PackardInfo Owner's Registry - [urlhttp://packardinfo.com/xoops/html/modules/registry/index.php?ID=874][/url]

Link to another 1396(but no photo) in PackardInfo Owner's Registry - [urlhttp://packardinfo.com/xoops/html/modules/registry/index.php?ID=638][/url]

It's possible there are photos of 1396's in the PackardInfo Photo Archive. I'm not going to look through it, you can have that privilege. Link - http://packardinfo.com/xoops/html/modul ... php?cid=44
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Previously - '41 120 Club Coupe(Sold October 2017) & '38 Eight Touring Sedan(Sold July 2009)
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Re: Help with the definition of the car model?

Post by Sobol040 » Wed May 09, 2018 9:56 am

Thank you for the information. But unfortunately it did not help me find a 100% answer to your question. If anyone has reliable information about the lack of RUNNING BOARD, please speak up!!!

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Re: Help with the definition of the car model?

Post by 34PackardGuy » Wed May 09, 2018 10:29 am

The lack of running boards on a 1940 Packard with production coachwork would be the result of some modification made after the manufacture and sale of the car by Packard.

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