Help with the definition of the car model?

Queries about model and year identification, engine and vehicle numbers, etc.
Sobol040
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Re: Help with the definition of the car model?

Post by Sobol040 » Thu May 10, 2018 9:37 am

34PackardGuy, all the panellists came to this conclusion. But considering the quality of the execution of the wings, skirts, bumper Schutz suggests that these components were produced in the factory. Maybe the parts were sold as accessories? Look at the photo, two completely different cars, and look like they came out of the same pipeline!!! Pay attention to the holes for fixing moldings on the doorstep of the "yellow car".
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Re: Help with the definition of the car model?

Post by Don Shields » Thu May 10, 2018 9:31 pm

Photos of the 1941 model year Packards with the running boards deleted at the factory show a valence panel or a vestigial running board extending out and down somewhat from the area below the doors. These vestigial boards have a single bright strip affixed at the bottom edge, not the two bright strips in the subject car. The neatly-placed holes visible in the lighter-colored car were probably put there by the factory and used to attach the running boards to the body. Perhaps an owner of a 1940 could check on this for us.

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Re: Help with the definition of the car model?

Post by Sobol040 » Fri May 11, 2018 11:27 am

Well, I'll try to contact him and ask him to clarify the matter. Maybe he can take this panel off the body and take a photo. If possible will post in this thread!!!

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Re: Help with the definition of the car model?

Post by Sobol040 » Tue May 15, 2018 10:47 am

Good day colleagues! In continuing to post the photos. Please note that all the elements of the factory version, holes and other elements could not be made at home.
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Re: Help with the definition of the car model?

Post by Sobol040 » Tue May 15, 2018 10:52 am

More photos!
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Sobol040
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Re: Help with the definition of the car model?

Post by Sobol040 » Tue May 15, 2018 11:09 am

If you have an opinion about the submitted photos, please speak.
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Re: Help with the definition of the car model?

Post by Sobol040 » Tue May 15, 2018 11:31 am

And here is another announcement of the seller, pay attention as the seller talks about the characteristics of the body.

1940 PACKARD 120 CUSTOM CLUB SEDAN CUSTOM COACHWORK BY BOHMAN & SCHWARTZ! RARE AND DESIRED ONE-YEAR-ONLY CUSTOM CLUB SEDAN! JUST IN FROM CALIFORNIA! PHOTO DOCUMENTED RESTORATION! RARE RUNNING BOARD DELETE! CUSTOM COACH-BUILT GRILLE WORK! FINISHED IN BEAUTIFUL GREEN LACQUER WITH GREEN CLOTH INTERIOR! FACTORY OVERDRIVE! 282 CUBIC-INCH STRAIGHT-8/120-HORSEPOWER! FACTORY JACK AND SPARE! CUSTOMER TAILORED PILLOWS! RUNS AND DRIVES BEAUTIFULLY!
1940 PACKARD 120 CUSTOM CLUB SEDAN
Finished in beautiful lacquer green and recently restored with photo documentation, this just in from California 1940 Packard 120 Custom Club Sedan runs and drives as beautifully as it looks. This rare one-year-only Custom Club Sedan features custom coachwork touches by Bohman & Schwartz with deleted running boards, and custom front fenders and grille work. The interior appointments have been restored with incredible care and faithful attention to detail, making driving or riding in this beautiful luxury car an experience not soon forgotten. The 282 –cubic-inch straight 8-cylinder engine runs with a smoothness rivaling any modern engine and is a testament as to why these cars were cherished even when new. This is a fantastic opportunity to own a rare and lovingly restored 1940 Packard 120 Custom Club Sedan. Any Packard is a prized collectible, but one with custom coachwork and this level of rarity is truly an extraordinary find. According to Knight Frank's Wealth Report, classic cars were the top-performing collectible asset with prices surging 23-percent in the 12-months ending in the third quarter of 2012. Please contact one of our expert sales consultants for more information. They will be happy to give you a complete walk-around, supply you with a more detailed description, and answer any questions you may have. Bid with confidence – for over 40 years Daniel Schmitt & Co. has built an unrivaled reputation by uniting the world’s finest motorcars with those who treasure them.
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Year: 1940 Make: Packard Model: 120 CUSTOM CLUB SEDAN
Color: Green Lacquer VIN: C308749 Stock Number: 405896

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Re: Help with the definition of the car model?

Post by Dave Czirr » Tue May 15, 2018 11:41 am

We need to distinguish between a factory-bodied car and custom or semi-custom coachwork. Factory bodies had running boards in 1940, but this car is NOT a factory body, it's a custom, modified from a factory body by Bohmann & Schwartz so it could have almost anything the purchaser wanted. So in this case there was no "factory delete option", the person that ordered the coachwork from B&S specified no running boards so B&S complied with their desire and deleted them. Exactly the same situation as with the Darrin convertible victoria you referenced earlier. By this time those few "coachbuilders" who were still in business were almost exclusively modifying factory bodies to the specifications of the purchaser.

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Re: Help with the definition of the car model?

Post by Sobol040 » Wed May 16, 2018 10:40 am

So Bohman & Schwartz used a standard car and modified it in accordance with the wishes of the customer?

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Re: Help with the definition of the car model?

Post by Dave Czirr » Wed May 16, 2018 10:49 am

Yes, absolutely - that how most all the so-called custom coachbuilders were functioning in that time. The era of the one-off, true custom coachbuilt bodies died for the most part in the late 1920s/early 30s with rare exceptions.

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