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'35 1207 steering column serial number

Posted: Tue Sep 25, 2018 3:36 pm
by 1935Packard
I've noticed that many mid-30s Packard senior cars have serial numbers on their steering columns housings like this from a '34 Standard 8:
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When I look on my 35 1207, however, there is no serial number facing upward on the housing. Instead, there is a serial number on the side. Here's what it looks like in my car, with the serial number just barely visible facing on the side, higher up.
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I'm not totally sure, but the serial number on the side appears to be T 215303:
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And then there is a second serial number, higher up on the hexagonal part, that appears to be 215496:
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I'm curious if anyone knows if the steering column serial number is a meaningful number, or if my steering column was likely replaced at some point or otherwise is not an original part given the location of the number on the side and not the top.

Thanks in advance for the help!

Re: '35 1207 steering column serial number

Posted: Tue Sep 25, 2018 7:14 pm
by 1935Packard
Incidentally, I looked around online for pictures of '35 12 steering gear housings, and here are some pictures I came across. Most don't seem to have the upward-facing serial number, with two seeming to have serial numbers on the side like mine and one having what looks like a serial number on the hexagonal part like mine. One seems to have the upward-facing serial number, though. Some aren't clear.
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https://rmsothebys.com/en/auctions/sj12 ... y-brewster
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http://forums.aaca.org/gallery/image/14 ... 12-engine/
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https://rmsothebys.com/en/auctions/HF17 ... ton/534986
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https://nostalgicmotoringltd.com/1935-p ... -victoria/
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https://www.wallpaperup.com/134715/1936 ... ngine.html
(from a '36 1407, but basically the same car)
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https://www.christies.com/img/LotImages ... _000().jpg
(also from a '36 1407)
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https://hymanltd.com/vehicles/5699-1936 ... lve-coupe/
(also from a '36 1407)

Re: '35 1207 steering column serial number

Posted: Wed Sep 26, 2018 5:20 am
by Dave Czirr
The only steering gear box numbers I've taken careful note of over the years are those on the 11th Series Eights; they are, as with the frame numbers, all in the same numeric range as the motor numbers, but not matching.

BTW, the 1100/01/02 models are called the "Eight", not the "Standard Eight", the model name Standard Eight was dropped after 1932.

Re: '35 1207 steering column serial number

Posted: Thu Sep 27, 2018 12:31 pm
by 1935Packard
Thanks, Dave. I'll check with some other 12th series 12 owners to see what the more original cars have.

(And I know the 1100/01/02s are technically just Eights, but I've found it sometimes helpful to say standard 8 just to clarify it's not the super 8. But point taken that technicaly it's not correct.)

Re: '35 1207 steering column serial number

Posted: Thu Sep 27, 2018 1:23 pm
by Dave Czirr
Let me know what you learn about the box numbers, I'm always interested in such things, I've been collecting theft proof and VN number sets for decades.

Point taken about the naming of the 1100/01/02; but then better standard Eight rather than Standard Eight.