'37 Senior

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Bluedevil
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'37 Senior

Post by Bluedevil » Sun Jul 05, 2020 12:24 pm

I posted this in the photos section also. So far it is believed to be a '37 Senior Twelve. Based on the license plate it was brand new.

Here is the Photos post

There is an interesting story accompanying this candid photo of Mr. and Mrs. Richard Moyle Sr. Moyle was the Principal behind the Marquette Cement Company in Oglesby, Il. We had dinner with his Great Grandson in Whitefish, Montana this week and he remembered hearing about the car.

In June of 1949 the Moyles boarded the Queen Mary on a trip to Mr. Moyle's childhood home in Cornwall England to celebrate their 55th wedding anniversary and brought this car along with Nephew Albert Moyle to be their chauffeur.

They listed it as a limousine, but I can't see the divider. It is definitely earlier than '38 due to the single windshield. The plate is from '37 and it looks to be a 5 or 7(most likely?) Touring Sedan, either a Super 8 or Twelve.

Can any keener, more knowledgeable eyes comment?
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Don Shields
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Re: '37 Senior

Post by Don Shields » Sun Jul 05, 2020 8:32 pm

The front bumper was a totally new style for 1937. The height of the vent in the hood side panel indicates that the V12 engine is aboard. The Twelves had 2 vents in the hood sides, the Super Eight used one taller side vent. So it most certainly is a 1937 Twelve. As you mention, I can't determine whether it is a limousine as there's not enough details visible to confirm whether a divider window is present or not.

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Re: '37 Senior

Post by Bluedevil » Mon Jul 06, 2020 6:07 am

Any way to tell if it is 139 or 144" wb. My guess is it is too short for a 132" car.

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Re: '37 Senior

Post by Bluedevil » Mon Jul 06, 2020 6:12 am

Is the round running board light in the rear fender unique to Twelves?

Don Shields
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Re: '37 Senior

Post by Don Shields » Mon Jul 06, 2020 5:13 pm

Judging by the distance between the "B" pillar and "C" pillar it looks like it is a longer wheelbase car, but as to which wheelbase it has is uncertain to me.
The rear fender-mounted courtesy lights first appeared in 1935. In looking at pictures of the '35-6-7 Packards I did not find these lights on any Super Eights so perhaps they are exclusive to the Twelves.

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Re: '37 Senior

Post by Bluedevil » Mon Jul 06, 2020 5:36 pm

Don,

Great observations. I will go measure my 139" car downstairs and maybe can figure out what this one is.

Thanks

Bill

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