Can One Add Power Steering To A 1949 Strait 8???

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Can One Add Power Steering To A 1949 Strait 8???

Post by 1948Packard22nd » Sat Apr 04, 2015 12:47 pm

Hi All,

I posted a similar post on the other forum however I am hoping to tap into some additional knowledge here.

I am wanting to add power steering to my dad's 1949 Packard Super Eight.

There have been advertisements back in the day on kits that one could buy to add PS to earlier year Packards (it is as easy to turn as dialing a telephone). I have also seen ads for used Packards that claim to have PS installed. There are even rumors of people seeing 1949 Packards with PS added and even some that say that it is a simple add on using 52/53 components.

After a conversation with Ross he mentioned that the engine mounts were moved from the front (under the water pump) on the 1951 and earlier engines to the sides on the 1952 and later engines so the bracketry would most likely be different. From the information I have acquired it does seem unlikely that this is a simple bolt on kit because of the 2 groove pulley needed for the system however I am sure someone has added this system to the older style strait * engine.

So the question I have is...Has anyone actually done this and if so can you PLEASE share some pictures and advice ???


THANKS!!!

Bill

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Re: Can One Add Power Steering To A 1949 Strait 8???

Post by Dave Czirr » Sat Apr 04, 2015 2:19 pm

Bill, there is no question that it can be done, though you won't get the full benefit as the gearbox itself will still have the "slower" ratio of a manual steering car. I've not done it but I've seen several 48-50 Packards where it was done. Some of these conversions were done by Neal Donovan (now deceased) in CT and I didn't ask for any details though he said it was really very simple and straight-forward. Wish I could help more, and do please post your results and details if you proceed for the benefit of future readers.

All of that said, I'm curious about the reason why you'd consider this, with a front end in good condition, properly aligned, and proper tires and inflation, these cars steer very easily, almost with a finger except when stationary or nearly stationary.

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Re: Can One Add Power Steering To A 1949 Strait 8???

Post by 1948Packard22nd » Sat Apr 04, 2015 5:15 pm

Thanks Dave for the information.

Yes the ratio will be more turns than the OEM power steering car however that is no big deal.

The car is my dad's car and in would be very nice for him to enjoy easier parking.

Does anyone have any pictures of this kind of install or any advice?

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Re: Can One Add Power Steering To A 1949 Strait 8???

Post by 1948Packard22nd » Sat Apr 04, 2015 5:33 pm

Does anyone know what company made the steering gear on the 1949? If I can find out what steering gear it is I might could see if another make of car has a conversion kit.

Here is an example of a 1949 Mercury conversion kit where they take a new PS box and bolt it to the Mercury chassis.

http://www.classicsteeringsupply.com/19 ... 4951GB.htm

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Re: Can One Add Power Steering To A 1949 Strait 8???

Post by 1948Packard22nd » Sat Apr 04, 2015 5:46 pm

Here is an ad for a Monroe aftermarket kit for the 1949 Packard:

https://books.google.com/books?id=TC0DA ... it&f=false

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Re: Can One Add Power Steering To A 1949 Strait 8???

Post by Dave Czirr » Sat Apr 04, 2015 7:53 pm

Does anyone know what company made the steering gear on the 1949?

The gear box itself? Gemmer.

55 and 56 Packard used both Bendix & Monroe power steering. Monroe is the less complex.

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Re: Can One Add Power Steering To A 1949 Strait 8???

Post by charlieshot » Sat Apr 04, 2015 8:52 pm

hello Bill, not sure of where you are, I am in phoenix az. however I have a 1953 Packard cavalier that we want to sell as a parts car. it has power steering and all the components are there, also automatic trans, if this is something you may be looking for let me know
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Re: Can One Add Power Steering To A 1949 Strait 8???

Post by 1948Packard22nd » Sun Apr 05, 2015 12:50 pm

I am still on the lookout for power steering components. Does anyone have a source?

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Re: Can One Add Power Steering To A 1949 Strait 8???

Post by Dave Czirr » Mon Apr 06, 2015 6:32 am

One thing I'd not considered that might ease the conversion somewhat is the answer to this? You'd still have to deal with the vibration damper issue but otherwise I believe a 53-54 PS pump might mount directly to the block as the factory installation.

Will a 51-54 water pump mount and function on a 50 and earlier 288/327 engine?

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Re: Can One Add Power Steering To A 1949 Strait 8???

Post by Howard56 » Mon Apr 06, 2015 6:56 am

I believe the later pump would mount to the earlier engine but it looks like the provision for the 51-4 wider and lower radiators would move the fan where it would likely have clearance issues with the earlier cradle. This photo shows the mounting bolts to block in approximately the same location and how each pump would sit and position the fan.
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