Hood Ornament, is it real OEM?

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Hood Ornament, is it real OEM?

Post by DickDanger » Fri Apr 13, 2012 10:20 am

I have a cormorant hood ornament that looks like it would fit a 1948 , 1949 and 1950 (maybe other years) Packard. It is a Comorant and it is in 3 pieces. Their are numbers cast in the underside of each piece. Can anyone help me determine the authenticity of this and tell me what to look for?

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Re: Hood Ornament, is it real OEM?

Post by Dave Czirr » Fri Apr 13, 2012 2:26 pm

Couldn't comment without the numbers and a very good description of the condition, or some good close-up photos. They are not particularly rare or hard to find but if original and the chrome plating is in perfect or near-perfect condition, it's worth about what it would cost to have one plated.

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Re: Hood Ornament, is it real OEM?

Post by DickDanger » Fri Apr 13, 2012 4:03 pm

Thanks Dave, I will dig out some numbers and try to post some photos shortly.

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Re: Hood Ornament, is it real OEM?

Post by genehouse » Fri Apr 13, 2012 5:02 pm

I have an original in my hand now and the number on the bottom of the cormorant is 407014. The wings, if they have a number, will be buried inside the cormorant. Gene
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Re: Hood Ornament, is it real OEM?

Post by DickDanger » Sun Apr 15, 2012 4:55 pm

I will check when I get home to see if there is a match. Does your ornament have wings that can be removed by unscrewing a single screw underneath that holds them in?

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Re: Hood Ornament, is it real OEM?

Post by Dave Czirr » Sun Apr 15, 2012 6:23 pm

Not to jump in on Gene, but on the Cormorant on my 1948 Custom 8, the wings each had a groove at the base and were held in place by a lead wedge driven into the groove. I forget whether there was also a screw attachment. It was necessary to remove the lead wedge to remove the wings from the bird's body.

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Re: Hood Ornament, is it real OEM?

Post by genehouse » Sun Apr 15, 2012 6:42 pm

Dave is exactly correct. There is a little wedge between the wings that hold them in. Now, how you get that wedge out? I'm guessing you need some type of hook to go over the wedge and pull it back toward the tail of the bird. I'd put some lubricant in there first because it is in there good! Gene
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Re: Hood Ornament, is it real OEM?

Post by Dave Czirr » Mon Apr 16, 2012 4:48 am

Gene, my wings got "floppy loose" and when I disassembled it I somehow lost the lead wedge. I replaced it with a shortened golf tee and that's been in there 25 or more years with no problem. But I've never had the experience of trying to remove a wedge that was secure.

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Re: Hood Ornament, is it real OEM?

Post by genehouse » Mon Apr 16, 2012 5:59 am

Dave, aren't a bird's wings supposed to flop up and down when they are flying down the road? :lol:
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1939 Buick Special
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1926 Star Landau (still in AZ waiting for me to pick it up!)

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Re: Hood Ornament, is it real OEM?

Post by Dave Czirr » Tue Apr 17, 2012 5:45 am

As most all know, I'm an authenticity nut of the first degree, but if I were to tinker with the bird's wings I motorize them so that at higher car speeds, they flapped faster! Wouldn't that be a sight!

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