1934 Packard-side view mirrors

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Payneangelfire
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1934 Packard-side view mirrors

Post by Payneangelfire » Sun May 09, 2021 12:11 pm

Gentlemen,
I just bought a totally restored 1934 Packard 1100 Sedan. Absolutely beautiful car.
When I took her for the first drive I looked down for the side view mirror to change lanes
and realized I did not have one. I felt kind of naked.

In looking at pictures of 1934 Packards I can see that
some cars have the side view mirrors and some don't. In reading the various publications,
parts lists, accessories lists, etc., I can see that side view mirrors are an after market part
sold by many different manufacturers back then and not just Packard.

What I want to know is what is the "proper" side view mirror for a 1934 Packard 1100 Sedan?
Is it the clamp type that fits on the end of the window? Or is it the screw on type that you
screw to the top of the metal tire cover? Or is it the leather strap on type that straps onto
either the tire or metal tire cover?

I found the clamp on type for sale on one of the providers in the Packard Club Yellow Pages.
But could not find the other two types. Does anyone know where these can be found?

Thanks in advance.

John P.

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Re: 1934 Packard-side view mirrors

Post by Dave Czirr » Sun May 09, 2021 12:42 pm

John, I've been driving and touring in an 1100 since the mid 1960s so I'm quite familiar with this subject. I'll stick to the factory approved accessories, aftermarket stuff just downgrades your vehicle.

Apparently your car has the optional sidemounted spares in which case there were accessory mirrors offered which are pictured in the 1934 Packard Accessory Catalog, appropriate page attached. Metal sidemount covers on the spares were also a option but the catalog only shows mirrors which mount to the metal tread cover, so i'm unsure of the legitimacy of the leather strap type that mounts on the naked tire as late as this. The metal strap-mount style pictured in the accessory catalog is what my car came with (pix below), I often see a version of these without the leveraged metal straps fastened via a simple underneath screw and am somewhat unsure of about their correctness for 1934 - perhaps a dealer-installed version? Or a running change, early vs. late change in style? Regardless, even in the best of judging venues they go unquestioned. Dan Sommer (formerly of American Arrow) borrowed my spare strap-type (pix below) and was making reproductions a few years ago. I believe Kanter continues to supply the simple post style.

You may find the sidemount mirrors sexy and elegant but they are at best marginal in getting good rearward views. Packard's optional door hinge pin mirror was the answer for me, though i'm not aware that anyone is still making them though there are generic ones around. The one I have (pictured below) was made by mirror specialist Jay Fisher (not longer in business) and differs slightly from the Packard accessory item (also pictured from the Accessory Catalog page) in the curvature of the stem. My strong recommendation is that for best functionality you try to find a hinge pin style, get the sidemount type for appearance if you wish but recognize their functional shortcoming.

It's not pictured or mentioned in any Packard literature that I'm aware of (the 11th Series Accessory Catalog only lists two types of mirrors -see index page of the accessory catalog below) but I've seen Packard-logo mirrors on several LeBaron customs without sidemounted spares which are mounted to the front headlight hardware and curve up over the fender, see enclosed pix on one of Bob Bahre's '34 1106 leBarons. They look great but I suspect are even worse than the sidemount mirrors for offering good, stable and steady rearward vision. Almost certainly not a legitimate factory accessory but rather a custom touch by LeBaron. They sure are eye-catching!
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Mirror, clamp on, SeeRite.jpg
Bahres LeBaron mirrors.jpg
1100 sidemount mirror.jpg
34 acc pg 7.jpg
34 acc pg 2.jpg

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Re: 1934 Packard-side view mirrors

Post by Payneangelfire » Mon May 10, 2021 4:00 am

Dave,
Great info. I will try and track down the hinge mount mirrors.
John P.

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