1955-56 Caribbean Breather

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jwa
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1955-56 Caribbean Breather

Post by jwa » Tue Aug 31, 2010 5:40 am

I need help with how to ID the correct batwing breather for a 55-56 Caribbean with 2X4 carbs. What is the spacing between the center holes and are the pods centered or do they rotate to off center? How do the Packard breathers differ from the Caddy and Pontiac? ( yes, i know the Caddy is gold and has the chrome "V" and i already know the Chey carbs are closer together) Are 1955 and 56 Packard breathers the same? ( My Caribbean is a 55) Thanks in advance. jerry.ashley28694@gmail.com JA.

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Re: 1955-56 Caribbean Breather

Post by Dave Czirr » Tue Aug 31, 2010 6:00 am

I can only address one of your questions. The later 2x4 filters (perhaps 1956, perhaps a running change) had pods that were eccentric and could be rotated for differing clearance to the rocker covers. The earlier ones (1955 and perhaps into 1956?) did not have that feature. Also the retaining rod and wing nut arrangement was different. I believe I'm correct when I say that the earlier version had the wingnut as an intergral part of the long rod and it was threaded in from the top to a lower retainer. The later ones had the threaded rod and part of the base which pushed up thru the top and the wingnut threaded onto it.

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Re: 1955-56 Caribbean Breather

Post by jwa » Tue Aug 31, 2010 3:55 pm

Thanks for your reply Dave. I have one of each and am considering take one of them with me to Hershey. It's time to turn some of this extra stuff into things i actually need for other projects. I just wondered if one is more correct than the other to decide the one i wanted to sell. The one with the movable pods is on the car now and i think i'll just leave it that way. Anyone have an idea on a value? I can't seam to find any comp's. Thanks again. JA

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Re: 1955-56 Caribbean Breather

Post by Dave Czirr » Tue Aug 31, 2010 4:18 pm

JA, I generally try hard to avoid questions about value, but do have some experience with the 2x4 Carib filters. Let me just say that if it's complete and free of damage and only needs a cosmetic freshening, think in terms of $1000 as a minimum baseline.

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Re: 1955-56 Caribbean Breather

Post by mikegrimes » Tue Aug 31, 2010 4:58 pm

Jerry,
I agree with Dave's estimated value. I've noticed some poor examples sell for $800 and some very well preserved units reach $1100-$1200 (including pods). I've seen intake manifolds in the $700-$1000 range and a good complete and correct carb set-up could fetch another $2000. So for a full set up with manifold, carbs, linkage, and air cleaner with pods might be worth $3500-$5000 depending on the condition. Also, I'm sure you know that the correct front carb is not as easy to find as some. Hope to see you at Hershey. Have you been assigned a space number yet? Best of luck.
Mike

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Re: 1955-56 Caribbean Breather

Post by Let the ride decide » Tue Aug 31, 2010 5:48 pm

Dave,

So the batwing top is the same 55-56, but the pods are centered early on, and sometime in 55 or 56 was changed to eccentric? I wonder if that had to do with the supplier rather than Packard engineering change? So did GM use the eccentric pods as well?

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Re: 1955-56 Caribbean Breather

Post by jwa » Tue Aug 31, 2010 6:04 pm

I will be at C3E-13 & 14. I have to work until midnight on Tues and then travel, so it will be Wed afternoon - most likley Thursday morning, before i am on my space. My friend Warner Neill might be there on Tuesday with some Packard parts, we are trying to get additional spaces but have not heard back from the Hershey region yet... I will be on C3E 13-14 though. If you have trouble locating me my cell is 336-877-0026. My direct emial is jerry.ashley28694@gmail.com Look forward to seeing you there. jerry

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Re: 1955-56 Caribbean Breather

Post by jwa » Wed Sep 01, 2010 9:48 am

I know that the 1956 Pontiac 285 hp Strato-streak engine the pods did eccentric. I think the Pontiac batwing breathers are by far more rare than the Caribbean? I don't think the Caddy's did eccentric? The Chevy batwing breather have the carbs closer together, i beleive it's 7 &1/2 inches, while the Caddy, Pontiac and Packard are 9 inches. I certianly don't claim to be an expert, just trying to sort this out, so i'll know. ja

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